we have to avert the fiscal cliff. my concern is it drives us into recession, knocks up employment up, and i agree with you, we have to ensure more people have more of their own money in the pockets to decide what to save, spend, what to invest, and anything that hurts our fragile economy, i think is bad for all americans, especially those like you talk about, trying to put food on the table and get the kids to school. tracy: anything you come to the tail on? concessions to give into in order to get it done to avert the cliff? >> john boehner talked about increasing revenue. i think we need to do that through jobs and growth and getting more people back to work. unemployment numbers continue to be very high. our big problem is the sending. we continue to spend too much, and we have to make adjustments now to make sure we save and protect medicare and social security for future generation. tracy: there's no talk about that. raise taxes six ways until tuesday, and it's not covering the debt or spending habits at the end